Herbalism Is a Calling: Paul Bergner on 50 Years of Clinical Practice

Some teachers give you information. A few rare elders give you orientation—a way of seeing the work itself. This conversation with Paul Bergner is very much the latter.

With over five decades of clinical practice, teaching, and mentorship, Paul has quietly helped shape modern Western herbalism as we know it. In this intimate living-room monologue, he reflects on a lifetime of work with plants, patients, students, and community—and on why true herbalism is not just a profession, but a calling.

This is not a fast-tips or trendy-protocol conversation. It’s a slow, grounded, elder-level transmission of how herbal medicine actually lives and evolves through diet, sleep, follow-ups, community learning, and disciplined practice.

A Life in Service to Clinical Herbalism

Paul began his work in the 1970s teaching medical self-care through diet, movement, and nature-cure practices—often in prisons and recovery communities. Those early years shaped his lifelong emphasis on dietetics first, herbs second, and on working with the body’s natural restorative power rather than against it.

Over time, his path led through naturopathic medical training, food co-op herbal practice, and ultimately into the creation and leadership of major educational institutions, including the North American Institute of Medical Herbalism. Along the way, Paul has reviewed thousands of student clinical cases and helped train more than 400 graduates through full clinical programs.

His perspective is rare precisely because it is based not only on books, but on tens of thousands of real follow-ups—the place where theory either proves itself or falls apart.

Key Themes from This Conversation

In this talk, Paul explores:

Herbalism as a Calling
Why true healers feel “tapped on the shoulder” by the work—and why rigor feels like nourishment when the calling is real.

Case-Based Learning Over Theory
Why follow-ups matter more than memorization, and how real clinical skill is built observation by observation.

Diet, Sleep, and Foundations of Health
Why no amount of herbs can compensate for poor sleep, unresolved food intolerances, or metabolic imbalance.

Community Herbalism vs. Isolated Practice
What you learn when you see the same people week after week in real life—not just scheduled clinic visits.

The Future of Herbal Medicine
Why the medicine is actually becoming simpler, not more complex—and why critical thinking and empirical learning must guide the next generation.

Why This Matters Right Now

At a time when herbalism is more visible than ever—through social media, short courses, and quick certifications—Paul’s voice offers an essential counterbalance. He reminds us that medicine unfolds over years, not algorithms, and that clinical wisdom is earned through patience, humility, and real-world accountability.

For students, practitioners, teachers, and longtime plant lovers alike, this is a rare opportunity to sit with one of the elders of the field and simply listen.

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Learn More About Paul Bergner

Explore Paul’s teaching, curriculum, and online courses through the North American Institute of Medical Herbalism.

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MINI-DOC | GLADSTAR: Becoming Nature's Reflection

Climb into a comfy chair and sit down with the Fairy Godmother of Herbalism, soak in all her beautiful words of wisdom, and be enlightened by her life lessons, how to communicate with plants, and bring out the wildness that lives in our deepest cellular core.

Rosemary Gladstar invites us to her beautiful home on Lake Champlain, Vermont, and walks us through her day-to-day rituals, how she greets every morning, and gives thanks when it’s time to drift into slumber, dreaming about the magical plants.

Destined to be a plant lover, Rosemary shares some early childhood memories, what got her on the path of herbalism, and expresses her life’s mission.

We live in a pretty tamed world today, and if you are someone who wishes to spend more quality time outside with Mother Nature, with your community, and wildlife, then you found yourself a real heartfelt gem.

We can’t thank Rosemary enough for the beautiful visit and taking the time to sit with us and allow us to see a glimpse into her lovely home, sharing some tasty meals, and showering us with so much love and compassion.

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DISCLAIMER

The information in this episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not intended as a substitute for advice provided by your physician or other medical professionals. Always consult a health care practitioner before using any herbal remedy or food, especially if you are nursing, pregnant, or have any medical condition.

Herbal First Aid Expert [SAM COFFMAN] Answers YOUR Questions!

Sam Coffman was kind enough to join us on HerbRally to answer a TON of your questions.

He also provided us with two FREE PDFs for you to download.

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If you’d like to show your support for Sam and his work consider signing up for one of their many offerings over at Herbal Medics and The Human Path.

Sam, Suchil and the entire Human Path team are true experts in many fields including herbalism, nutrition, first aid and more.

A HUGE thank you to Sam for answering all of these questions for an hour and a half. I know I learned a ton.

And big thanks to you all for listening, as well as for asking all of these fantastic questions.

Talk to you soon and see you in the next episode!

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A “GOOD” STING, STINGING NETTLE

A “GOOD” STING, STINGING NETTLE

by Bella Donna


Me, “Oh wow. That looks like stinging nettle!”

Me, “OUCH!!”

I learned about wild stinging nettle a few years ago while visiting my Great Grandfather’s home of origin, Pitomaca, Croatia. After noticing a lot of “green” meals, I asked about the proliferation of greenness. Our meals there became quite entertaining. My first morning, I was up early and meet the owner’s son sitting outside under an umbrella of trees. He introduced himself and then said, “Let me get you a cup of coffee. Would you like American coffee? Or a good cup of coffee?” 

At dinner, on our first night, we were handed a menu. With no one in a hurry, we read the whole menu and decided on some special dishes of local cuisine. The waiter came to take our order. Then he said to us in his broken English, “We don’t have ‘that’ but we do have Kopriva, a delicious soup of the day.” 

Same with the main dish, “We don’t have this, but we have that.” And yes, same with my friend’s wine choice. For each meal thereafter we didn’t even look at the menu, just asked, “What do you recommend?”  We ate delicious meals, mostly green, my favorite food color. It was heavenly.

One morning when things seemed to have slowed down, I asked about the “green” of so many foods. Bernard, the owner’s son, told us the story of their whole family collecting stinging nettle annually in a back area. He said they spend days collecting bags full, drying them, and storing them for the upcoming year.  He went on to tell us that nettle is their most useful and healthy food that they try to include in as many dishes as possible. 

This explained the green pasta, the seasoning in the potato dishes, and the green bread. 

In my studying and use of stinging nettle, I’ve come to understand the enthusiasm of having access to a wild herb with a reputation as a superfood. I plan to encourage the spread of what I’ve found on my property so that I can also “collect stinging nettle annually in my back area” as Bernard and his family does.

As a natural, healthy, easy-to-grow superfood, stinging nettle offers the following benefits.

  • Antimicrobial

  • Antioxidant

  • Pain-reliever due to its anti-inflammatory abilities

  • Nutritionally dense, providing many vitamins and minerals

  • Helps with detoxification

  • Can provide relief to respiratory issues

  • May help lower blood pressure

Some nettle recipes that I’ve since discovered and continue to enjoy are:

  Lemon-nettle tea

Pesto

Omelet- Green eggs and no ham 😊 

Easy Quiche

Lentil-Wild Nettle soup

Green Pasta

Nettle-Feta Spanakopita

Chicken with Nettle

Onion Phyllo Pastry with Nettle

Chickpea Nettle Burger


To explore more science-backed benefits: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/stinging-nettle.html

 
 

BELLA DONNA | BEE HEALTHY

Wholistic Healthcare Facilitator —Beekeeper, Aromatherapist, Apitherapist, Herbalist, Life and Health Coach

My personal, business, and life-long mission continues to be teaching and inspiring others to better health. Throughout my life I’ve found many avenues to this with the most profound having faith in the natural health and healing abilities of honey and herbs. Synergistically the empowerment of the two is phenomenal.

I have studied for decades with such greats as my Great Grandfather as a child, to Rosemary Gladstar in my early adult years, and in later years with Peter Bigfoot at Reevis Mountain, in the desert of north Phoenix, living off-grid and on the land for two years. And my favorite influencer of all, Dr. Bruce Lipton.

7Song | Preparing a Practical Home Herbal First Aid Kit

The inimitable 7Song reviews all the important items in his (very large) first aid bag.

This talk features some of the most important plant medicines and other items to have around the house and how to treat common home first aid situations such as colds and flu, cuts, injuries and pain.

June 2 – 4, 2023: Medicines from the Earth Herb Symposium – In person in Asheville, NC

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  • Parallels between the TCM Principle of Essence and Modern Genetics: From Analog to Digital

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The Fight to Protect Joshua Trees

Herbalist and botanist Christina Sanchez has been working to protect the Joshua trees for years now.

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Essential Oils for Emotional Support | Naomi Kilbreth, RH (AHG)

We're thrilled to welcome Naomi Kilbreth on the HerbRally Podcast to discuss essential oil blending and aromatherapy for emotional support.

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Naomi is a registered herbalist with the American Herbalists Guild and the host of the popular podcast "The Family Herbalism Podcast".

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Learn more about Naomi and her work at LaurelTreeWellnessLLC.com.

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We hope you got a lot out of this episode! 


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Healthy Delicious, Nutritious “Fudge” Treats | Corinna Wood

In today’s episode you’ll hear from Corinna Wood, who’s been teaching holistic healing and women’s wisdom for 30 years.

Corinna founded and directed the Southeast Wise Women Herbal Conference and Red Moon Herbs for many years. She now supports earth-based women worldwide with tools for inner growth and healing—for navigating the transitions and seasons of your life.

We’re delighted to have Corinna with us to share her super-easy, no-cook recipe for her all-time favorite healthy treats.  

These delicious, nutritious “fudge” treats are packed full of nutrition—plus, they’re an awesome way to incorporate herbal and mushroom powders into your diet. Enjoy!


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Blog article & recipe: Holistic Nutrition Fudge Treats

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The Nurtured Herbal Practitioner | Erika Galentin

The Nurtured Herbal Practitioner: 5 day retreat to rest, reflect, and rekindle your clinical journey | Sovereignty Herbs

Where: The United Plant Savers 370-acre Goldenseal Botanical Sanctuary sits in the Appalachian Foothills of Southeastern Ohio.

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"At Sovereignty Herbs we believe the world needs more clinical herbalists who are thriving in their practices and that collaboration and community can lift us up to rise together in our profession.

Whether you are a student of clinical herbalism transitioning into becoming a practitioner or a seasoned clinical herbalist with years of practice experience, we invite you to join us April 23-28 for The Nurtured Herbal Practitioner Retreat.

Come rest, reflect, and rekindle yourself in community with other clinical herbalism practitioners at the stunning United Plant Savers Botanical Sanctuary during Appalachia’s peak woodland medicinal herb and wildflower season.

During this 5-day retreat, participants will enjoy core workshops taught by experts in clinical herbalism and entrepreneurship as well as facilitated roundtable buzz sessions unpacking complex topics such as navigating burnout, maintaining core values in business practices, and facing fears within our clinical careers.

There will also be ample opportunity for deep rest and connection through guided medicinal plants hikes, joy-building activities and revelries, and free time to explore the Sanctuary, swim in heart pond, or read in the Jim Duke library at the Center for Medicinal Plant Conservation.

Reconnect by coming together in community for social and professional support.

Rekindle your passion by Illuminating new perspectives about an embodied approach to entrepreneurship and clinical practice.

Rest by claiming space away from the daily grind of zoom calls, client emails, and digital marketing demands.

Reestablish relationship to the natural world and the plants as your source of inspiration and purpose."

Pancreatitis in Dogs | The Canine Herbalist

In today's episode, Rita Hogan joins us to discuss pancreatitis in dogs. Rita has been working with pets and herbalism for over two decades, thus being known as "the canine herbalist". 

If you enjoyed today's episode (which I know you will), be sure to subscribe to her podcast "Dogs are Individuals".

Simply search for that title in the same podcast player you're using right now and you're bound to find it.

A huge thanks to Rita for presenting today's topic, and thanks to y'all for listening! 


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